Dear Forum,
I want to clarify something before Mike jumps back to me: The issue before this forum the whole time has been that there ever was two gospels, one taught by Peter and the other disciples and Paul in the New Testament. The RD insists that there either is or at one time was two gospels to two groups of people, the Jews and the Gentiles. Mike and Robert made their point that there is now only one correct gospel. But the issue is was and always has been does the Scripture show that the 12 disciples taught a different gospel than Paul. I think we proved that this is false in that Paul, Peter and John agree that all are saved by the same gospel to all people. We further made the point that the RD believes in salvation by two different means or periods for two different peoples and we showed that to be erroneous. We further made the point that the RD believes that the Jews receive the "Kingdom of Heaven on earth" while the Gentiles receive the "dispensation of grace" by Paul to go to a spiritual kingdom. We showed these views to be also incorrect. Now after all of that why would Mike answer that he now believes there is just one gospel. Why then did he take us on that long trip?
Sincerely finished,
Ron Avery
 
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From: taphouse@sbcglobal.net
To: Mike Schroeder
Cc: Allen Couchman ; Arthur Clarke ; Chris Stevens ; Terry Burnett ; Chuck Burnett ; David Lewis ; David Martinez ; Jeremiah Patoka ; John Bryant ; John Otis ; Mitch Friedman ; Nathan Shaver ; Pat Hastings ; Ryan Bebee ; Rick Mata ; Steve Phillips ; Dante Tremayne
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 6:32 PM
Subject: Destruction of the RD doctrine

Dear RD forum,
I am going to quit replying to the advocates of the "rightly divide" doctrine. But by no stretch of the imagination should anyone conclude that I did not with the help of several others on this forum completely destroy this doctrine as it was presented by Mike Schroeder and Robert Powell. To prove my statement I offer the following quote from Mike Schroeder and his dishonest response to my survey question. Why should we trouble ourselves any further with that type of dishonesty pretending to be scholarship? I am not parting from this forum, but from the issue before this forum. I want you all to look at Mike's answer on the survey chart below and compare it to his statement quoted immediately below in the conclusion he wrote to Robert. I also want to say that I know both of these people and I do not want them to suffer from this doctrine or in any other way and I pray that they can survive this doctrine. I also want to compliment the work of Dante and Chuck and others in the destruction of this doctrine. I would also like all on this forum to go to the survey I sent you on 8/4/08 and fill it in to see what the conclusion has been in the minds of this forum. I look forward to the new topic.
Sincerely,
Ron Avery
 
"Conclusion
 
I think the point of all this should be that, whatever happened during the Acts transition, at the end of it one gospel emerged, and that is Paul's gospel, "the gospel of the grace of God," which is now to be preached to "all nations for the obedience of faith." (Romans 16:26)  It is absolutely not to be mixed with the other gospel, the "gospel of the kingdom," preached by Peter, James and John to the "circumcision," which paralleled it during the Acts. By doing this, as most of Christian theology does, you adulterate the grace gospel with works, which is clearly forbidden."
 
The quote above from Mike Schroeder's response to Robert Powell's email question on July 20, 2008
 
Sincerely,
Ron Avery
www.AlienPhysics.com
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Schroeder
To: taphouse@sbcglobal.net
Cc: Allen Couchman ; Arthur Clarke ; Chris Stevens ; Terry Burnett ; Chuck Burnett ; Daniel New ; Dave Lescalleet ; David Lewis ; David Martinez ; Don BeBee ; Jeremiah Patoka ; John Bryant ; John Otis ; Mitch Friedman ; Nathan Shaver ; Pat Hastings ; Ryan Bebee ; Rick Mata ; Steve Phillips
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: berean-survey.doc

 

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Subject: berean-survey.doc
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:42:36 -0500


Dear Rightly Divide Forum:

 

I really don’t know what the forum thought about any of this debate. So please take one moment to put an “x” in one of the boxes and add any comments at the end.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Ron Avery

 

Where do the rest of you stand?

Please click on reply and put an “x” in the column that you prefer as I did under “One Gospel” and click “send.”

 

Person

Don’t Care

Two Gospels

One Gospel

Alan Couchman

 

 

 

Arthur Clarke

 

 

 

Chris Stevens

 

 

 

Chuck Burnett

 

 

 

Daniel New

 

 

 

Dave Lescalleet

 

 

 

David Martinez

 

 

 

Con BeBee

 

 

 

Jeremiah Patoka

 

 

 

John Bryant

 

 

 

John Otis

 

 

 

Mitch Friedman

 

 

 

Nathan Shaver

 

 

 

Pat Hastings

 

 

 

Rick Mata

 

 

 

Ryan Bebee

 

 

 

Steve Phillips

 

 

 

Terry Burnett

 

 

 

Robert Powell

 

 

 

Ron Avery

 

 

x

Mike Schroeder

 

 

 x*

 

Add any comments you have about the debate as to what you learned or did not learn and if you thought it was worth reading or did you read any of it to start with etc.:

 

 * There is now only one gospel that will save "them that believe" (Rom. 3:22), and that is Paul's gospel (Rom 2:16; 16:25; 2 Tim. 2:8), which he called "the gospel of Christ" (Rom. 1:16; 15:19,29; 1 Cor. 9:12,18; 2 Cor. 4:4; 9:13; 10:14; Gal. 1:7; Philip. 1:27; 1 Th. 3:2).

 

This does not negate the fact that, during the Acts, there was two gospels being preached, Paul's gospel (see above) and "the gospel of the kingdom"(Matt. 4:23; 9:35; 24:14; Mk 1:4) given to the 12 apostles to preach to Israel (Matt. 10:6; 15:24). 

 

Mike Schroeder 

 


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